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 標題  Fw: [心情] 洪員案與自身經歷有感
 時間  Tue Jul 16 23:24:50 2013
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作者: fokmiltary (fred) 看板: Militarylife
標題: [心情] 洪員案與自身經歷有感
時間: Tue Jul 16 21:59:48 2013

這幾日看到洪姓下士的新聞,心中感到悲痛萬分。
心中充滿的是憤怒和悲傷。洪員的案子僅僅是這個可怕的共犯結構的其中一個
犧牲者而已。

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對於軍方遇到事情只會推拖拉跟敷衍放煙幕彈的手法小弟有切身經歷
小弟為通資電下士,原單位為前後備司令部某直屬連
負責送電話記錄的假士官真小兵。經手的電話記錄與看過高官實在不少。
走出去送一回文,舉手敬禮,舉到手痠。
雖然發生在小弟身上的事比起洪員的憾事實在是不值得一提。
但軍方推卸責任跟造假的手法,小弟我是親身體驗過。
若非親身經歷,尚無法對此事件感同身受。直至今日我依然會在睡夢中被惡夢驚醒,輾轉
無法入眠。憤怒和悲傷早已成為了我生活中重複循環的一部分。

實在再看不慣,我們國軍總是用這種卑劣的手法掩蓋事實。

事情發生在小弟快退伍不到兩個月的某日,老兵八字輕驗證在我身上。

地點在新北市林口區憲兵學校打靶場地,當時某排長以清楚聽到口令為由,於打靶前多次
要求,更於靶線上指著當時擔任靶助的我,命令我拿掉左耳的耳塞。
於是在一輪槍聲轟炸下,打靶結束後,就覺得不對勁,左耳嚴重耳鳴、眩暈、頭疼且全身
不適。當時也馬上向幹部反應,當然也只是被說過兩天就好,不用理它,但當天我還是自
行到醫務所去了,醫官當時皺了皺眉頭叫我去外面就醫。至於就醫的過程就不詳述了,總
之作完PTA(純音聽力測驗),醫生就說我這很嚴重已經達到突發性耳聾的標準(sudden
hearing loss)。或者說是急性音響外傷(acoustic trauma)。兩個月過後聽力只救回了一
點。最終被宣判內耳毛細胞已死,聽力不會再恢復了。

這宛如晴天霹靂般重重打在我的身上,一切都幻滅了,醫生無情的告知摧毀了我最後的一
點希望,當下我坐在診間的椅子上不知所措,後排站著的兩位實習醫生,似乎看出了我的
不安,輕輕的出聲安慰了我,要我看開點。我猶記得那一天我站在台大醫院的長廊上,無
助的發楞,耳內不斷的嗡嗡作響震耳欲聾,看著人來人往的走道,窗外下著大雨,雨滴在
玻璃上滑落,但淚水卻滴落不了,只覺得全身發麻,不知何去何從,當下湧現一股想終結
一切的衝動,但我忍下來了。

我不甘心因為長官不按規定貪圖自身方便,要我不能戴耳塞導致我終身傷害。便向國防部
投訴,回復的內容當然也是些敷衍的官腔,說會進行調查,台端意見本部甚感重視之類的
鬼話,要我先跑一堆流程,也不給個明確的交代。於是我就打電話給案件承辦人求證,承
辦人也表示調查結果與我所申訴之內容相符,當時我還以為我得到了公正的處理與對待。

跑完了一堆流程,最後發現重頭到尾我都被騙了,調查是假,報告是假,承辦人的對我的
言詞也是假。以”無人聽到排長下令”這樣被搓掉了。

怎麼可能!怎麼可能!難道那些長官當初對我的說法,承辦人對我的說法,他們都是知曉實
情的人,我在當下第一時間就做出回報,並且那些”長官”也求證過了,怎麼會查無此事
,該查的根本就沒查。

最後我自行提出更多人證跟各種邏輯上的謬誤,要求公布調查報告,還我真相跟公道。軍
方不願公布也不受理我的證據,只說會重啟調查,但不會尋求新事證,見鬼了,不找新事
證那重啟調查是在演戲嗎? 找人施壓也沒用,軍方還是給你推拖拉,找各種理由搪塞,就
這樣拖了3、4個月,知道我有證據第二次報告又改口,改稱排長是"提醒”讓我”自行決
定”要不要每波射擊結束取下,射擊開始再帶回去。真的很會凹。兩次調查自打嘴巴就算
了,報告撰寫的品質….
1.命令變提醒?  2.腦殘軍官有沒有沒當過靶助,那有時間可以把耳塞拿上拿下?左手還要
拿紅旗耶,這是什麼鬼理由。

是怎樣,東掰西扯,反正受傷的死的不是你家的小孩,報告能多唬爛就多唬爛。

事發至今,我沒有得到當事相關人等任何的道歉跟說明,只是一昧的被蒙蔽跟欺騙。

因為耳疾造成的耳鳴跟對生活的影響,有興趣的人可以體驗一下24小時被這種聲音轟炸
http://www.ata.org/sounds-of-tinnitus。實在是痛苦難耐,幾乎要毀掉我的生活,因
此瘋狂的尋遍各大醫院須望能醫好,也因為不斷的爭吵,女朋友也快崩潰。我不願意像梵
谷一樣被當成精神病患,最後發瘋割掉自己的耳朵,所以現在固定的再看精神科跟心理醫
生。

你說我想不想要放下這一切,不再追求真相跟公道,不再追求公平和正義。

老實說,我很想。 不管最後有沒有得到公道,造成的傷害都無法改變了,對我是,對洪
員的家屬也是,傷害無法挽回,人死不能復生,只是真相與公道是目前唯一能讓那些受了
傷而悲痛的心靈們獲得一絲絲救贖的機會,沒有真相更不用談原諒。 有興趣知道我的案
子八卦的站內信。

馬的,比起洪員我很慶幸我還活著。軍方遇到這種事情常用的手法不外乎
1.      先安撫你,摸摸頭看能不能把你壓下來。
2.      安撫不了,再說會進行調查,然後做些無關緊要的事,要你慢慢等,混淆視聽。
3.      真的紙包不火了,再說一點謊,走一步算一步,等謊言被戳破再說。
4.      就算真的謊言被戳破了,再來個相應不理,不然就是繼續掰理由,案子給你拖到
天荒
地老。

我在洪員的一案,看到太多軍方使用的手法跟現在拿來對付我的一樣。

所以不要輕易相信軍方的任何說法跟人,我就是這樣被騙了,你永遠無法知道其內部的權
力結構是如何的交錯複雜。
幫洪員高調,否則媒體的熱潮過了,就正好順了國防部的意,調查慢慢查,報告慢慢寫,
反正就算最後亂寫在怎麼荒謬不合邏輯也沒人會去注意了。

並非所有的軍士官都是罪大惡極,但在這樣的體制下,在怎麼好的人最終只是被同化,一
環扣著一環,緊密的結合,難以撼動,獨木難支矣。



昨夜,我輕抹了殘留在眼角的淚痕。

所以,我請求各位,如果你們還堅信自己心中存在著公平與正義,如果你們還希望這個腐
朽年邁的國軍體制能夠有那麼一點改變,如果你們對於洪員的事件還有感受到那麼一點的
憤怒和同情。
請站出來,參加遊行,這不單只是為洪員及洪員的家屬,更是為過去所有遭受到不公對待
的士官兵和其家屬出一份聲。這是身為平民百姓的我們所能盡的一點微薄的力量。
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看到舉手原來是要壓腿,我突然覺得,我拿到的調查報告好像也不怎麼稀奇了。

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推 joeful6:原po多保重                                              07/16 23:15
推 a4758299:加油                                                   07/16 23:18
推 mathilde17:原PO加油!                                           07/16 23:18
推 lav:QQ加油!                                                     07/16 23:19
推 aquarius212:為你流淚                                            07/16 23:19
推 RLH:對了 我遇過醫生看半天看不好 居然說他們以前沒帶也沒像我這樣  07/16 23:19
推 victoryv6:難過                                                  07/16 23:20
推 CoLLaps:這個可以申請國賠嗎? 這些垃圾國軍長官                    07/16 23:20
→ RLH:耳鳴難醫我知道 但我都沒說你是庸醫了 跟我抱怨什麼            07/16 23:20
推 joshay:加油!                                                    07/16 23:20
推 CaTkinGG:加油                                                   07/16 23:21
推 chiang017:除了難過,更是生氣                                    07/16 23:22
推 kai761:軍中真的啥亂七八糟事都有  保重                           07/16 23:22
推 lovewest:原po拍拍 才一po這麼多人也這樣,真是太過分了            07/16 23:23
推 andy78714:加油!!!!                                              07/16 23:24

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※ 轉錄者: beckseaton (120.114.191.171), 時間: 07/16/2013 23:24:50
推 ltameion:唉                                                     07/16 23:26
推 feelnopain:垃圾狗軍                                             07/16 23:26
推 GenesisXD:加油...                                               07/16 23:27
推 pjf53300:嗎ㄉ  幹你朗  國軍                                     07/16 23:27
推 h2j32000:記者不報 良心泯滅                                      07/16 23:27
推 ymcg:國軍造了多少孽                                             07/16 23:27
推 sungu:看到一個一個例子出來,台灣人民真的不站出來嗎?              07/16 23:27
→ sungu:還有多少已經身心受害,連說都沒辦法說的人正在地獄般的生活   07/16 23:28
推 LeonardoChen:...                                                07/16 23:28
→ sungu:又有多少是已經不在這世上,只留下家人傷心難過一次又一次的   07/16 23:28
推 lc301:我同梯有位被排長叫去高牆清草 結果跌下來 手整隻斷掉 非常   07/16 23:28
→ sungu:痛!?這樣我們還不站出來嗎?難道真的不覺得跟自己有關係嗎?    07/16 23:28
→ LeonardoChen:還好我活著出來了,感恩                             07/16 23:28
→ sungu:也許現在不用當兵,也許會覺得不關自己的事情,但是            07/16 23:29
推 justin531xx:國軍就是垃圾                                        07/16 23:29
→ sungu:你的小孩,你們家人,你的親戚,是很有可能遇到這些事的啊!!!    07/16 23:29
推 adonisey:垃圾國軍 敗類一堆 全部去死                             07/16 23:29
→ lc301:恐怖 是後 也不文不問 還排他上哨 後來終身殘廢              07/16 23:29
推 tiramisu0225:推!!                                             07/16 23:29
推 euphoria01:這太太過分了                                         07/16 23:30
推 dtcladoring:原po加油!!                                        07/16 23:30
推 shiniko:垃圾國軍!!!                                             07/16 23:30
推 pjf53300:國軍真他媽的   去死一死好了   操 2054t退伍還是很幹     07/16 23:31
推 winiS:我家族也一個 30多了沒辦法工作 人生怎麼走還不知道          07/16 23:31
推 Arioch:QQ                                                       07/16 23:31
→ winiS:禮拜六估計也沒時間去了… 唉                               07/16 23:32
推 nity:加油!                                                      07/16 23:32
推 kopiayu:                                                        07/16 23:32
推 YU0120:                                                         07/16 23:33
推 takano:加油!                                                    07/16 23:33
推 cl3ru6ai48:推推推!!                                           07/16 23:33
推 silentence:別再相信調查還是報告了  沒民代施壓不會當一回事的     07/16 23:33
推 behappy0924:垃圾,這比帳爆出來一起算啦!                          07/16 23:33
推 chenaxia:                                                       07/16 23:34
推 wen2233:國軍裡面超多垃圾的                                      07/16 23:34
推 artpoet:                                                        07/16 23:34
推 wykao:記者快來抄                                                07/16 23:35
推 aoikawa:                                                        07/16 23:35
推 winiS:民代施壓也要看狀況 不夠力也是船過水無痕...                07/16 23:35
推 dwind:                                                          07/16 23:36
推 cywec:太可惡了,別人的小孩就死不了,原po你很勇敢站出台          07/16 23:36
推 meowmeowgo:                                                     07/16 23:36
推 billybbb:國軍整個廢了也沒差                                     07/16 23:37
推 tchavelier:慘                                                   07/16 23:37
推 DAVIDWAY:爛國軍 高調 記者快來多報一點                           07/16 23:37
推 wangmelo:推!                                                    07/16 23:37
推 MJwwjd:淚推                                                     07/16 23:37
推 sunnyeva:高調!!                                                 07/16 23:37
推 imyme:推一個,請多保重                                          07/16 23:37
推 sggs:                                                           07/16 23:38
推 BAR777:舉手鴨腿~~~ 幹 北七也知道..  越想越氣                    07/16 23:38
推 j7710259:                                                       07/16 23:39
推 lin83:高釣                                                      07/16 23:39
推 eco100:國軍真的有夠爛                                           07/16 23:39
推 vidan41:幹真他媽的有夠扯 裡面是不是人去的地方                   07/16 23:39
推 indolentcat:幹  突然有能平安退伍 跟中威力彩是一樣爽度的錯覺     07/16 23:39
推 greenday0827:拍拍 看了好難過阿...                               07/16 23:40
推 freeway56:推                                                    07/16 23:40
推 jansan:幫高調                                                   07/16 23:40
推 outsmart33:                                                     07/16 23:40
推 tonykingtwo:推  你要加油阿                                      07/16 23:40
推 tina800920:大推!!!                                              07/16 23:40
推 mseal1s:推 這真的很嚴重 那我以後當兵... 根本就是拿自己的命開    07/16 23:40
推 maxlove5288:對國軍徹底失望,請多保重!加油                        07/16 23:40
→ mseal1s:玩笑嗎?                                                 07/16 23:40
推 rj9rj9123:幹!!                                                  07/16 23:42
推 nickypp:推推                                                    07/16 23:42
推 cccandice:噓國防部                                              07/16 23:42
推 loveoichi:高調!                                                07/16 23:43
推 togs:實在是太可惡了                                             07/16 23:43
推 QQdragon:狗官真的無所不在                                       07/16 23:43
推 hsiang1104:真的淚推 悲憤                                        07/16 23:43
推 tommy21332:推,委屈你了!7/20一起包圍國防部吧                   07/16 23:45
推 SunnyMyLove:謝謝你勇敢站出來讓更多人知道這些鳥事。              07/16 23:45
推 NotEasyToSay:..                                                 07/16 23:45
推 DDI:難過                                                        07/16 23:45
推 osaka12:看了很難過                                              07/16 23:45
推 Anail:很難過 國軍真的跟黑道一樣欺壓瞞騙自己的士兵和人民         07/16 23:46
推 beyir:軍中人權黃媽媽 很偉大..                                   07/16 23:47
推 bitad:推                                                        07/16 23:47
推 silentence:就貪便宜行事而已  怎可能不知道好幾把槍擊發聲有多大   07/16 23:47
推 eddy1216:加油!!!                                                07/16 23:47
推 riker729:話說以前的年代 耳朵受損的不少                          07/16 23:47
推 mark643kimo:加油!!!                                             07/16 23:47
推 tarosmium:推!                                                   07/16 23:47
推 MashRoom:軍方真的一堆噁心的垃圾  難怪一堆人不想當兵             07/16 23:47
推 aly800301:加油                                                  07/16 23:47
推 Edaw:高調!!  媒體快來抄!!                                       07/16 23:48
推 bigear1030:淚推!!!                                              07/16 23:48
推 milkyway168:整個國家都在爛,官員,財團,馬鷹狗去死              07/16 23:48
推 iMANIA:國軍幾乎都垃圾阿                                         07/16 23:48
推 eldis:如此國軍,何須敵人?                                       07/16 23:49
推 dreamkaren:推                                                   07/16 23:49
推 lwowl:一年多少軍事預算養一堆敗類                                07/16 23:49
推 CoolTakuya:幹                                                   07/16 23:49
推 yun0215:我難過...                                               07/16 23:49
推 serval623:當兵前記得先保險                                      07/16 23:49
推 patear:可怕的是老一輩的、政府、國防部都把這些當作習以為常       07/16 23:49
推 graysinger:高調                                                 07/16 23:49
推 milleniasho:推                                                  07/16 23:49
推 cmh19:幫高調 再幹一下國軍                                       07/16 23:49
推 lover790222:媽的~! 要是我碰到這種狀況 直接拿槍對著長官射        07/16 23:49
推 smart8122:推!!!!!!!!                                            07/16 23:50
推 yusuan0407:幫高調                                               07/16 23:50
推 psychepsyche:加油                                               07/16 23:50
推 mobydick1029:軍隊不能再是人治了!!!                           07/16 23:51
推 gtrexh:加油!!!!!!                                               07/16 23:51
推 otaku5566:推                                                    07/16 23:51
推 ciaaarz:推 加油                                                 07/16 23:51
推 zukidelko:媒體快出來幫高調                                      07/16 23:52
推 inbongos5566:推                                                 07/16 23:52
推 pams:高調推!這就是只會對內打戰的國防部!                         07/16 23:52
推 dreamaple:加油!                                                07/16 23:52
推 fusion196:拍拍                                                  07/16 23:52
→ daemonshadow:幫縮文章    http://ppt.cc/Cjql                     07/16 23:53
推 sanika:只會內鬥的軍隊整個砍掉重練了啦!!!!                       07/16 23:53
推 f91325:加油!!我們挺你!!                                     07/16 23:54
推 ilovenet:加油                                                   07/16 23:55
推 Joshlinyc:高調                                                  07/16 23:55
推 eon4:難過...原PO保重                                            07/16 23:55
推 fly0609:加油!                                                   07/16 23:55
推 yankees0109:推一個! 加油                                        07/16 23:55
推 youbo0627:我難過 幫高調                                         07/16 23:56
推 memories66:只能幫高調 難為你了..                                07/16 23:56
→ herculex:受訓時射66火箭筒縮射彈,教官要求全體學員不得戴耳塞     07/16 23:56
推 dtdon1699:Q.Q                                                   07/16 23:56
推 SiePtt:我難過                                                   07/16 23:56
推 BerwickSt:.....原PO加油!                                        07/16 23:56
推 Easley:Q_Q                                                      07/16 23:57
→ herculex:自己確有戴,當時的感覺耳鳴比步槍造成的還嚴重           07/16 23:57
推 jing007:加油!!                                                  07/16 23:57
推 asx557813299:娘泡國軍不敢面對錯誤跟小屁孩一樣                   07/16 23:57
推 andrexie:加油~給你一個推!這次一定幫你搞垮這群該死的渣           07/16 23:57
→ herculex:耳鳴了大概一個禮拜才好,幸好聽力無嚴重受損             07/16 23:57
推 rock1227:高調!                                                  07/16 23:58
推 miao5566:我憤怒又難過!                                          07/16 23:58
推 lonelynight:好慘烈                                              07/16 23:58
推 kiyasolong:媒體快出來幫高調                                     07/16 23:59
推 BenLaDan:過失重傷害了阿這 加油!!                                07/16 23:59
推 guanshiun:幹 真的寧願棄國防被統一也無法容忍這樣的國軍繼續存在   07/16 23:59
推 cesar0909:                                                      07/17 00:00
推 galleon2000:推  拍拍                                            07/17 00:00
→ estrawberry:難過                                                07/17 00:00
推 d31400517:好難過                                                07/17 00:00
噓 cl3ru6ai48:噓 guanshiun  一碼歸一碼好嗎?????                    07/17 00:00
推 appedix:加油                                                    07/17 00:00
推 cda:推~                                                         07/17 00:01
推 azik:   不推還是人嗎                                            07/17 00:01
推 jenqhau: 國軍真是垃圾                                           07/17 00:01
噓 ritanini:某樓有26                                               07/17 00:02
推 MoonMan0319:真是一群垃圾                                        07/17 00:02
推 lindviorair:                                                    07/17 00:03
推 ECZEMA:我知道24小時 時時耳鳴 有多可怕                           07/17 00:03
推 stanscsqwe:禮拜六一定到                                         07/17 00:03
推 choulinisme:推                                                  07/17 00:03
推 debian99:好難過                                                 07/17 00:03
推 ggly:推...                                                      07/17 00:04
推 a555954:真的很難過……                                          07/17 00:05
推 qaz2334438:推阿                                                 07/17 00:06
推 zelda740411:可以來個大清算嗎?要砍趁這次!!!                      07/17 00:06
推 activeactive:原PO 加油!!!                                  07/17 00:06
推 zekelin:難過                                                    07/17 00:07
推 ricepaddy:唉,看了很令人難過.......                             07/17 00:07
推 rabbitrobert:                                                   07/17 00:07
推 tinjunsei:推你 看到你這樣我快哭了 國軍真的是一堆畜生!!!!!!!!!!  07/17 00:08
→ ricepaddy:這篇要怎麼轉載到臉書,有沒有人能教我?                 07/17 00:08
推 chungrew:難過+1                                                 07/17 00:09
推 Hatred:                                                         07/17 00:09
→ ricepaddy:謝謝,我看到上面有縮網址了                            07/17 00:09
推 hsulinchih:替你難過,慶幸自己平安退伍                           07/17 00:10
推 cacasi:耳鳴我也有,雖然不是太大聲但也很討厭了,我了解你的感受   07/17 00:10
推 MKSIN:快來抄ㄚㄚㄚㄚㄚ                                          07/17 00:10
推 yspen:QQ                                                        07/17 00:11
推 hganan000:我難過 原po加油                                       07/17 00:12
推 jack7217:X的~真想廢掉這沒路用只會殺老百姓的機關                 07/17 00:13
→ carriewutw:給你拍拍                                             07/17 00:14
推 wjcjsj:原PO加油~                                                07/17 00:14
推 tartrate:推                                                     07/17 00:15
→ MortalCGU:國軍真的需要大刀闊斧改革                              07/17 00:16
推 ineffaceable:推                                                 07/17 00:16
推 hhenry666:加油                                                  07/17 00:16
推 nofungus:幫 高 調                                               07/17 00:16
推 a9220072002:原po看開點 加油啦                                   07/17 00:17
推 lingling0000:加油!!   一樣都是當過兵的看了真的好難過            07/17 00:17
推 z22771187:我難過                                                07/17 00:17
推 kazeki:推你!!                                                   07/17 00:17
推 SunnyDale:難過 這就是國軍中的某人                               07/17 00:18
推 about99999:原PO和其他受害者加油!! 不能再讓這種人禍延子孫!!      07/17 00:18
推 yayaorz:加油!!                                                  07/17 00:19
推 talent30101:幫高調!台灣國軍不意外~官官相護+國軍實力只能表演     07/17 00:20
推 SSSLuffySSS:找怨恨屋吧  殺光那群廢物                            07/17 00:20
推 blackchc:                                                       07/17 00:20
推 t2111gj25:幫高調 原PO加油!                                      07/17 00:21
推 sackings12:原PO加油!                                            07/17 00:21
推 linkinchez:加油啊...                                            07/17 00:24
推 amy82213:X1可以把國軍廢掉,被中共統一我也甘願,反正也打不贏     07/17 00:24
推 a0170801708:打六六火箭彈也有人說不要戴耳塞的....志願役不意外    07/17 00:25
推 Vaince:幫高調                                                   07/17 00:25
推 KAOKAOKAO:唉                                                    07/17 00:25
推 memalina:幫高調                                                 07/17 00:25
推 amALu:                                                          07/17 00:26
推 bibby0414:真難過...加油!!                                       07/17 00:26
推 simonshu:推高調 QAQ                                             07/17 00:26
→ a0170801708:還是實彈.....不過打的人都不管照戴就是了XD           07/17 00:27
推 chiutepiao:哭哭                                                 07/17 00:27
推 amy82213:記者快來喔                                             07/17 00:27
推 KBMJ:垃圾國軍 幹                                                07/17 00:27
推 jordan621:push                                                  07/17 00:28
→ e030149116:加油                                                 07/17 00:28
推 AndKobe:要是我 我一定在他回家的路途 同歸於盡                    07/17 00:30
推 BlackBass:我難過                                                07/17 00:30
推 person0618:怒推                                                 07/17 00:30
推 francis1n:保重                                                  07/17 00:30
推 uuma:加油                                                       07/17 00:31
推 greedypeople:QQ                                                 07/17 00:32
推 TaiwanGSM:可以對軍方提告嗎?                                     07/17 00:32
推 onthesea:我難過 加油                                            07/17 00:33
推 h2901911:希望此生有機會替你報仇                                 07/17 00:33
推 MarsZ5:老兵不死,因為死的都是小兵。                             07/17 00:33
推 espanolasa:加油                                                 07/17 00:34
推 Tabris157:保重...                                               07/17 00:34
推 joe090:加油!                                                    07/17 00:35
推 MarsZ5:看到加害者好好活著,你怎麼可以自殺 ?                     07/17 00:36
推 xu42j0:難怪國軍當年會戰敗退到台灣                               07/17 00:36
推 karenwang:真的很難過,那些狗官真的是賤畜低能不入流的垃圾        07/17 00:37
推 OGW:加油..                                                      07/17 00:37
推 yamapi198549:                                                   07/17 00:37
推 yang407234:加油~                                                07/17 00:38
推 happiness08:(T_T)                                               07/17 00:38
推 tgkv:高調                                                       07/17 00:39
推 KrisNYC:高調                                                    07/17 00:39
推 coldchris:推                                                    07/17 00:42
推 va7ts:認識的朋友裡面,也有兩個跟你一樣,' 當完兵聽力喪失        07/17 00:42
推 beving:我的情況跟你有些類似! 某次當完靶祝至今已經六年多,左耳   07/17 00:46
推 eyson:你有勇氣走到這步 真的辛苦你了                             07/17 00:46
推 bonnielin:養這些志願役的"屎"軍官,真的很浪費資源,還不如轉作  07/17 00:46
→ beving:耳鳴從未停歇,但醫生判定聽神經受損。比你的輕微一些       07/17 00:47
→ beving:原PO一起保重! 現在我也只能把耳鳴當作鄰居來相處了         07/17 00:48
推 QQCandy:實在不知道怎麼安慰你,只能推你一個了                    07/17 00:48
推 CIIIO:SAD..                                                     07/17 00:49
噓 Hambowbow:只有我覺得蠻假的嗎...@.@                              07/17 00:50
推 BigTounge:淚推                                                  07/17 00:51
推 nagahut:加油QQ                                                  07/17 00:52
推 m06800825:高調                                                  07/17 00:52
推 davidou:我難過 還好我當兵沒舉手 不然我也要被壓腿被自殺了        07/17 00:52
推 genius0716:加油     我看到我好難過喔                            07/17 00:52
推 l00cm:你還活著  報仇十年不晚                                    07/17 00:54
推 shiningQ:如果從軍只是毀掉台灣的年輕人,那我寧願不要有軍隊        07/17 00:55
推 craig:我只知道人家要我死,我就要他全家陪葬,都知道是誰把你玩    07/17 00:56
→ craig:成殘廢,連回報他都不會?                                  07/17 00:56
噓 dskphy123:說假的那位要不要自己發一篇逐項敘述哪裡假?             07/17 00:57
推 jacky0207:幹你媽的國軍,原po你要堅強                             07/17 00:59
推 dskphy123:推回來                                                07/17 00:59
推 AHJ:樓上冷靜 我想某樓只是想表明他自己甲甲的                     07/17 00:59
推 fallen01:我難過                                                 07/17 01:00
推 frankego:太難過了 加油                                          07/17 01:02
推 kkk007:同為打靶耳鳴的受害者 希望你能加油~~                      07/17 01:03
推 mark4664:在此恭喜所有平安退伍的弟兄 也替冤死軍中的弟兄哀弔      07/17 01:04
推 hikaru924:推,加油。                                            07/17 01:11
推 bigbvd2001:加油QAQ~~~~~希望你能撐過去~~~                        07/17 01:12
推 Aiakos:看了真的很難過~                                          07/17 01:14
推 enjoy:委屈了,希望你能好好稱過去~                              07/17 01:16
推 eeffbbjjoo:加油 我很慶幸我打過155加農砲 還好好的                07/17 01:18
推 suoolong:非推不可,加油                                         07/17 01:19
推 cheng1990:推                                                    07/17 01:21
推 weipuyan:給你拍拍 加油 撐住 祝福你找到解決病灶的方法            07/17 01:22
推 sharkimage:拍拍 替你好難過                                      07/17 01:24
推 poorenglish:國軍真的太多垃圾                                    07/17 01:25
推 iamgorgeous:加油                                                07/17 01:25
推 samonella:這種事因人而異,但遇到就是100%,某樓說假是假在哪?       07/17 01:27
推 sehi:推!!你很棒很有勇氣!加油!!希望你要有信心!!                  07/17 01:31
推 nightfly1984:原OP加油!                                         07/17 01:32
推 hiroko000:加油 幫高調                                           07/17 01:39
推 inking:...到底為什麼不讓人戴耳塞,爛透了                        07/17 01:40
推 alor7408:原po加油~7/20見                                       07/17 01:43
推 guysBBBB:說假的 怎麼了 最近工讀生加班加太多累了嗎               07/17 01:47
推 fred10047:QQ                                                    07/17 01:47
推 HNO3:我難過                                                     07/17 01:49
→ french0315:加油!                                               07/17 01:50
推 capik:我也是當兵打靶損傷聽力,現在左耳24hr耳鳴.......無解       07/17 01:59
推 mrgold29:加油!                                                 07/17 02:00
推 k5a:拍拍!加油吧                                                07/17 02:02
推 yaohuei:不意外  當過兵的人都知道裡面是一個極度病(變)態的地方    07/17 02:02
推 iuo:難過 加油                                                   07/17 02:03
推 varisa:                                                         07/17 02:09
推 krisss:一起來                                                   07/17 02:09
推 nicekavx:加油!                                                 07/17 02:09
推 ccdoggy:拍拍                                                    07/17 02:32
推 Bluebear:加油!!!                                                07/17 02:35
推 dragoni:拍  我也有耳鳴 ... 一開始真的睡覺都很難睡著...          07/17 02:39
推 ul6na:拍拍Q_Q                                                   07/17 03:02
推 cool911234:加油                                                 07/17 03:15
推 jordonmi:幫高                                                   07/17 03:45
推 charlie1kimo:看了很難過                                         07/17 04:09
推 ching620:加油!                                                 07/17 04:21
推 wdjung:替你感到惋惜                                             07/17 05:28
推 pianosea:加油...!!                                              07/17 07:32
推 f9968106:真的很令人生氣                                         07/17 07:57
推 wuj:推                                                          07/17 08:20
推 pig0038:已哭                                                    07/17 08:23
推 assunny1012:難過 希望有記者來抄 多掀翻幾個狗官!                 07/17 08:40
推 s76083kahala:看了你的故事 真的覺得排除萬難也要去參加遊行了      07/17 08:54
推 mouse4260:推                                                    07/17 08:59
推 jijuan:加油                                                     07/17 09:02
推 umine:看了好難過...好好的人出來都殘廢...幹你娘國軍!!!           07/17 09:11
推 catcherry:難過...                                               07/17 09:11
推 idesyo:只能說加油了!                                            07/17 09:18
推 iam0718:國軍爛 能平安退伍真的很棒                               07/17 09:25
推 noobismeok:我真的很生氣                                         07/17 09:34
推 tzongyao:真的廢掉國軍啦  都是米蟲跟垃圾                         07/17 09:35
推 pTTer00:推                                                      07/17 09:39
推 orioh:幹伶娘廢物狗官怎麼那麼多啦! 機掰啦!!                      07/17 09:50
推 capable:推                                                      07/17 09:58
※ hatako:轉錄至某隱形看板                                         07/17 10:04
推 beerloving:推                                                   07/17 10:54
推 jefftae7:我 難過                                                07/17 11:18
推 j155221:幫高調。一起站出來                                      07/17 11:25
推 a125wind:垃圾志願役!!漠視義務役子弟人命                         07/17 11:29
推 bignose:我跟你一模一樣  現在也是24小時耳鳴 我也是憲兵退伍       07/17 11:50
推 lovelyshu:一連串看下來,我覺得國軍比黑社會還黑啊!!!              07/17 11:50
→ lovelyshu:幸虧沒生兒子,不然我會為我兒子的將來擔憂               07/17 11:51
推 cinss:                                                          07/17 12:21
推 shinise:推                                                      07/17 12:30
推 parkerlived:                                                    07/17 12:43
推 financer:推推推                                                 07/17 13:12
推 cp9cm:我難過...                                                 07/17 13:33
推 bonboncat:垃圾國軍                                              07/17 14:17
推 hola1214:我難過                                                 07/17 14:50
推 gto6221:推!!                                                    07/17 15:17
推 Yie:                                                            07/17 19:24
推 lrac:加油                                                       07/17 20:58

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